So, my 2012 F-250 6.2L continued to intermittently make the startup rattle and it continued to bother me. The truck never ran any different, and the rattle never seemed to get worse. Same routine, somewhat random: might do it a few times a day, then might not do it for a week or two. Finally, I went to the dealer (again) to discuss. Basically I got nothing...they just want to tell you it is normal, injector noise, piston slap, cam phaser, blah blah. I had 20k miles on mine, always dealer oil changes every 3k miles. Ended up getting an excellent trade for a 2015 F-350, gas 6.2L again. I figured this noise, probably from weak lifter issues, would be solved by now. And so for the first 2 weeks and 400 miles, no noise! Then, it made the same startup rattle as my old 2012. Now its at 600 miles and it did it one more time last night. So Ford has not corrected this problem.
Couple of things are different with this engine. Air intake is visibly different under the hood, and the starter motor is different. Engine cranks over more slowly. Engine overall is considerably quieter. My old 2012 used to make an air whistling sound when it was very cold outside. This one does not (new intake design, maybe?) But, the startup rattle was the primary reason for trading...and it is still here. I've started a "rattle" log which documents mileage, outside temp, type of driving before the vehicle rattled, and finally, how long it sat. I only have two entries, but in both cases the temp was about 30F and it sat for about an hour. Hopefully I can develop a pattern to help diagnose this noise. However, if it truly is as random as where the cam stops when the engine is shut off, good luck, right? I also rationalized the slower cranking starter as Ford's way of fixing the startup rattle: a longer crank time helps build up oil pressure before the engine actually starts. Too bad it doesn't work. If it cranked a few more times it would, though.
Just as an aside, this truck seems to have better power delivery...same output, but maybe better throttle response and definitely the transmission shifting is smoother (also same trans, but probably better programming and I believe they have a different torque convertor in it).
I really was leaning towards the 6.7L diesel this time; I like the 6.2, is powerful and smooth, doesn't have all the diesel issues of price, maintenance, and potential issues, but man this noise sucks. The embarrassment factor is very high when this engine makes the startup rattle.
Couple of things are different with this engine. Air intake is visibly different under the hood, and the starter motor is different. Engine cranks over more slowly. Engine overall is considerably quieter. My old 2012 used to make an air whistling sound when it was very cold outside. This one does not (new intake design, maybe?) But, the startup rattle was the primary reason for trading...and it is still here. I've started a "rattle" log which documents mileage, outside temp, type of driving before the vehicle rattled, and finally, how long it sat. I only have two entries, but in both cases the temp was about 30F and it sat for about an hour. Hopefully I can develop a pattern to help diagnose this noise. However, if it truly is as random as where the cam stops when the engine is shut off, good luck, right? I also rationalized the slower cranking starter as Ford's way of fixing the startup rattle: a longer crank time helps build up oil pressure before the engine actually starts. Too bad it doesn't work. If it cranked a few more times it would, though.
Just as an aside, this truck seems to have better power delivery...same output, but maybe better throttle response and definitely the transmission shifting is smoother (also same trans, but probably better programming and I believe they have a different torque convertor in it).
I really was leaning towards the 6.7L diesel this time; I like the 6.2, is powerful and smooth, doesn't have all the diesel issues of price, maintenance, and potential issues, but man this noise sucks. The embarrassment factor is very high when this engine makes the startup rattle.