[JewRassic Raptor]

Hey guys. New to the forum from south Florida. 2019 Raptor Crew Cab 802a. Just hit 2k miles. So... red light...I’m in sport mode... light goes green... foot to the floor. Truck gets to 6th gear and all of a sudden I get a complete loss of power as if I suddenly downshifted, low oil pressure warning light comes up, and the oil gauge is red reading empty oil (was at 3/4 before this happened). Pull over and shut her off. Do best inspection I can I see nothing I smell nothing. Turn it back on and it’s back to 3/4 full as if nothing ever happened. Truck is practically brand new and drove the rest of the way home without any issues whatsoever. Other forums I’ve read it’s not an uncommon issue. Oil level is indeed 3/4 original oil obviously still from dealer. I’m not sure how truck servicing is being handled with everything shut down from this virus. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Black Hawk]

I haven't heard of it being a common issue and don't know what the problem could be. These forums tend to make folks think there are trends or common faults, as they magnify the "what's wrong with my truck...." Not down playing your truck's problem, I know it sucks to have a new truck do that. But, I would definitely get it looked at while under warranty. Even with the virus, around here they are still working on them. Perhaps, different in South FL. I would still call and get it logged in with management so when they open they can take it in. Let us know what you find out.

 

[JewRassic Raptor]

I haven't heard of it being a common issue and don't know what the problem could be. These forums tend to make folks think there are trends or common faults, as they magnify the "what's wrong with my truck...." Not down playing your truck's problem, I know it sucks to have a new truck do that. But, I would definitely get it looked at while under warranty. Even with the virus, around here they are still working on them. Perhaps, different in South FL. I would still call and get it logged in with management so when they open they can take it in. Let us know what you find out.

Will do. Going to call service once they are back open in the morning. Thanks for responding. Be healthy. Be safe.

 

[JewRassic Raptor]

Will do. Going to call service once they are back open in the morning. Thanks for responding. Be healthy. Be safe.

So I went to the dealer. Met with my service advisor. I told them I’m here for a full synthetic oil change because and the service cuts me off and says, “let me guess.... oil pressure warning?”. I was floored. So as it turns out a number of the gen 2’s (which already burn through oil as it is) have an issue with the actual computer system that measures oil capacity and cam firing. And by issue I mean Ford isn’t treating is as an issue but “sensitive technology”. I was told to NOT go by the oil level gauge readout as mine did this while reading 3/4 full and at 2000 miles on the odometer at that. She said she has had numerous Ford customers bring their trucks in with that issue and as far as Ford is concerned the only recommendation is to constantly check your oil level manually and top it off when low between actual oil changes. She said they’ve contacted Ford engineers multiple times but the technology is so sensitive that as soon as you really push some of these trucks into high rpms(especially in Sport mode) any slightly low oil level will cause the truck to throw the oil pressure alarm and cut power. Was very surprised at how she knew why I was there when I said I’m already getting an oil change. (I had been here once before and in conversation she warned me that the Gen 2’s burn through oil and people bring in dried up trucks). I definitely didn’t anticipate this issue at 2k miles but at the end of the day it is what it is and I’ll just have to keep her blood replenished a little more often than past vehicles. Hope everyone is safe and healthy. Be well.

 

[Samie]

I have a 2018 Raptor.
After 6 months the same as above happened. Initially occasionally, and then everytime I floored the accelerator: Got fast to >60 mph Warning came up: Low Engine Oil Pressure and something automatically killed the engine power (could only drive at <40 mph). Restart the truck, warning gone, and can speed again (as long as I don't floor it).
Brought in the truck to the dealership/service, they replaced oil (always synthetic), filter, and mentioned about a common issue, and replaced 'engine caps' (I think that's what they are called).
Issue was fixed, and I could floor it again ((( :,

Till this morning (chilly day in H-town, just above freezing point)
Exactly the same issue as before, except I haven't been able to replicated it on 2 tests. I'll keep an eye on it, if I can replicate it, will have to bring it in for service again.

Dang it Raptor engineers, otherwise an excellent truck, this one is annoying.
Aawh Forgot, Also had water leak on the passenger side (few forums reported this),
Had to change all the floormat and the service fixed it for free after multiple calls/emails and involving Ford corporate that this should be covered under warranty.

ps.
If you guys haven't tried Shell v-power (vs regular 95), try it. What a difference in acceleration

 

[Desertfox]

Sounds like ye ole stretched timing chain. Welcome to club EcoBust!!!!! You'll need to get them to replace timing chain, guides and phasers. Yep, it's a Bust, not a Boost...

 

[Samie]

Really? I'm a rookie, how did you get to that conclusion with timing chain?
Are eco busts sorry boosts having that problem generally?

 

[Rapdav18]

Yes it’s true. Dezert Fox is correct. I’ve done it twice. Once at 15,000 and again at 30,000. Change your oil and keep it full. This will avoid this repair. I’m at 75,000 now with no issues anymore. 45,000 great miles because I change the oil frequently. Every 3000 miles. It’s a twin turbo. Very hot. Loses oil quickly.

 

[Samie]

Yes it’s true. Dezert Fox is correct. I’ve done it twice. Once at 15,000 and again at 30,000. Change your oil and keep it full. This will avoid this repair. I’m at 75,000 now with no issues anymore. 45,000 great miles because I change the oil frequently. Every 3000 miles. It’s a twin turbo. Very hot. Loses oil quickly.

Ok, thanks for the reply. Are you saying the low oil is causing issues with timing chain, guides and phasers ?

 

[Rapdav18]

Yes. It’s crazy how this issue is happening to everyone with a gen 2 raptor. This is a racing engine. As everyone knows it’s used in the GT 40. Direct injection engines are racing engines. They require much more maintenance than any other engine out there. Then add not one but two turbos. My monthly maintenance includes cleaning my air filter. Changing my oil. Cleaning my maf and map sensors. If the oil isn’t full and checked every other week the timing chain will stretch. There is a tensioner but when fully extended it done. As a result the cam phasers go out of calibration and send your timing into crap mode. The problem is recognized by ford and under warranty. If you are out of warranty it’s about 2500.00 to have it done. Two reasons for this. These trucks burn oil via direct injection and leak oil too. The oil plugs need to be replaced every other oil change. Some trucks have plastic oil pans not steel. The 17 and 18 models usually. Definitely take your truck in to the dealership and get this fixed. It should be a recall but they don’t look at it that way.

 

[Samie]

Thank you for the response. sounds sound.
Have warranty so Back to calling Ford service at Autonation, and guess if they are true pain or not...

 

[Samie]

update> Went through the regular pain with Ford service Autonation
They claimed there was an update issued for PCM so they did that, changed the oil and filter.
No further changes made as they had replaced the valve covers last time (1 yr ago) when this issue appeared first.

I don't believe this will solve the issue long term, and probably @Rapdav18 most correct in his assessment of the issue. I'll keep you posted.

 

[Rippin Raps]

I have the same problem. I didn’t really notice anything until I installed the COBB access port. Called the dealer they said there is an active recall on the cam sensors. The second thing I have found was metal shavings in my oil. Not huge chunks but I was definitely concerned. I don’t really DOG this thing but is anyone else have this problem?
Also I sat in the seat with mud butt!! How do you clean out the holes where the butt chillers are?

Thanks Guys!

Tommy